Letters to the Editor
Fall 1998
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998
From: Full Frame Film & Video Distribution
Subject: informative films
Full Frame Film & Video Distribution, since 1974, has distributed
informative and challenging films to universities, interest groups,
and many and varied socially aware and community-oriented organizations.
In fact, we offer our interesting titles to such organizations, often,
at a much reduced price, reflecting the particular situation and needs of
such organizations. We invite you to visit our website to purview our many
and varied informative titles -- perhaps you, your colleagues, or your
organization would find one or more of these titles to be appropriate to
your current agenda to educate, orient, or generally assist others according
to their need.
Our website address is: www.interlog.com/~fullfram
www.interlog.com/~fullfram
Thank you for your consideration.
Regards,
Tim Jeans
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998
From: John Bryant
Subject: Question
You say you invite the participation of whites. I'm white. But I'm also a
racist, and you apaprently don't like racists. So the question is, Is my
input welcome? And if not, doesn't that mean you are really not interested in
talking to anyone who disagrees with you? -John Bryant (NewSocit2m@aol.com)
PS Your site is visually appealing, but it carefully avoids touching on any
real issues. Are you cowards, or just stupid?
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998
From: marshall
Subject: just an e-mail
Hi. I first found out about your site when I was reading Essence or Emerge
magazine(I can't remember which one). I went to your site and really
enjoyed reading the material. I sent one of your files to my Mom. I don't
know that it did any good but I keep trying.
I also went to the Aryannation site and several of their links. Of the two
sites, I think yours was the most interesting but I learned quite a bit from
theirs too. I don't think I will ever understand the logic behind their
beliefs. How anyone can use some random genetic choices and inherited
traits as the basis for deciding someones character and worthiness as a
human being I just don't understand.
Good people come in every ethnic group, just like bad people come in every
ethnic group. No one group has a monopoly on producing saints, intellectual
giants and business geniuses. And no one group produces only sinners,
idiots and lazy wretches.
I'm not that old nor am I highly educated. By government standards, our
family is low income. But I can see the insanity of race. And the insanity
comes from all people, not just white people. The only thing is that, in
many instances, white people weild the power and influence so their insanity
affects others more. That power and influence blinds so many of us to our
own insanity. Because we're so busy pointing out all the ways white folks
mistreat others, we can't see how we go around with the same sick notions in
our own heads. I try so very hard not to be prejudiced. And I try to teach
my children to judge each person on their own merit. But, it's an uphill
battle. Everywhere I turn I am confronted with another stereotype, another
ignorant person, another episode of "is she a criminal?" or just flat out
hatred and meanness.
Anyway, it's nice to know that people keep trying to educate themselves and
others about the craziness of trying to classify others by race(and
artificial construction if there ever was one!).
I'll keep coming back to your site and I hope you keep doing what you're doing.
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998
From: Matthew A. Kelley
Subject: can we exchange links?
While researching the Internet for sites about the mixed race experience, I
came across your homepage. I am editor of MAVIN, a new printed magazine written
primarily by and for college students concerning the mixed race experience. I
have recently put together a preliminary website for MAVIN, and would appreciate
any input you may have on it. I would also greatly appreciate it if you could
put a link to MAVIN from your website. If so, please include your own link
information so I can do the same. I definitely feel that MAVIN's
fundamental mission compliments your own. I have written the URL address and
accompanying statement below. Thanks, and I wish you the best of luck and hope
we can work together in some capacity in the mixed race arena!
Very truly,
Matthew Kelley
MAVIN Journal
1102 8th Ave. #407
Seattle, WA 98101
MAVIN's URL:
http://www.aa.net/~mavin/mavin.html
MAVIN
"The articulate journal of the mixed race
experience."
MAVIN is a quarterly print journal dedicated to the celebration of the mixed
race experience in America. MAVIN's mission is to create a pan-collegiate
voice and to provide financial and logistical support to encourage mixed race
student organizations across the country.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998
From: Sivear Ung
Subject: Letter to the Editor
To Whom it may concern,
I came across this site while looking for information about White
Identity, generally speaking- how White people see themselves. This
research is for an important assessment for my senior year here in
Australia and I was hoping to do a cross cultural comparison with
opnions of Whites in the United States. I was wondering if anyone would
be interested in answering my questionaire. I would appreciate comments
from people of all ethnic groups as I have interviewed people of all
colours here in Australia. Please send it to siv@galnet.net
1. What is the ideal American?
2. Are you concious of any forms of racism happening in society?
3. How do you feel about your own place in society ?your self-worth in
your family, community and country)
4. Is everyone exposed to messages that promote racism? If so, what kind
of messages and how do you interpret them?
5. Do the people you are in contact with each day (friends, family etc)
cofront or avoid issues of race?
6. What does White racial identity have to do with racism?
7. Do you feel that racist principles are never questioned? Why so?
8. How can you feel proud of your race without being racist?
Thanks for taking the time out to read this.
Sylvia Ung
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998
From: Da Machete
Subject: DGTOnline
Peace & Blessings.
My name is Jehvon Buckner and I am the President & CEO of Da Ghetto Tymz
magazine. I am emailing to invite you to our new website: Da Ghetto
Tymz ONLINE! The address is http://www.blackmind.com/DaGhettoTymz DGT is a
Pittsburgh-based, nationally dispersed Afrocentric publication that
deals with culture, history, current events, politics, religion and hip
hop. We hope you will take some time out to visit our site and explore
the voice of Generation X.
As well, please invite your colleagues. Our site will be updated
bi-monthly so we hope we have something for everyone each issue.
Please feel free to contact me via email (dgtymz@hotmail.com) with any questions, comments or concerns.
For subscriptions, send $15 (check/money order) for a years subscription
(12 issues) to DGT, POST OFFICE BOX 71193, PITTSBURGH, PA 15213.
Thank you.
Jehvon J. Buckner
President & CEO
Da Ghetto Tymz magazine
DGT Online
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998
From: Daniel Bernardi
Subject: Library
Hello,
I noticed you included my anthology, THE BIRTH OF WHITENESS, in your
list of books dealing with whiteness. I'm wondering if you know about
my more resent book, STAR TREK AND HISTORY: RACE-ING TOWARD A WHITE
FUTURE (Rutgers University Press, 1998). As the title might imply, it
traces the meaning of race -- or the dominance of whiteness -- in the
Star Trek "mega-text," from the original television series to the films
to the recent spin-offs to the fan community on the Internet. The
method is critical/cultural studies.
Keep up the solid, interesting work...
Daniel Bernardi
Department of Film and Television
UCLA
Editor's Note:
Readers may wish to check out Daniel Bernardi's Web page, produced by the Sci-Fi Channel, that
includes a non-academic article on the original series: http://www.scifi.com/futurenow/
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998
From: Leslie L Lester
Subject: Letters to the Editor
Dear Editor:
Here's an info angle that sheds light on how multi-national corporate
interests and elites created the racial demarcation in America to foment
a cushion between the workers, diverting attention from their economic
exploitation. Initially, in this country, working-class Blacks and
Whites related like regular people.
"To those used to the smell of servants just from the ship, they will be
easily discovered unless they have procured new clothes." Advertisement
in the May 5, 1775 issue of the Virginia Gazette for escaped indentured
servants.
"Both in Rotterdam and in Amsterdam the people are packed densely, like
herrings so to say, in the large sea-vessels. One person receives a place
of scarcely 2 feet width and 6 feet length in the bedstead, while many a
ship carries four to six hundred souls;....
"Many people whimper, sigh and cry piteously for their homes; most of
them get homesick. Many hundred people necessarily die and perish in such
misery, and must be cast into the sea, which drives their relatives, or
those who persuaded them to undertake the journey, to such despair that
it is almost impossible to pacify and console them.
"Children from 1 to 7 years rarely survive the voyage. I witnessed misery
in no less than 32 children in our ship, all of whom were thrown into the
sea. The parents grieve all the more since their children find no
resting-place in the earth...."
Source:
Gottlieb Mittelberger, On the Misfortune of Indentured Servants
http://history.cc.ukans.edu/carrie/docs/texts/gottlieb.html
The exaggerated emphasis on differences between Blacks and Whites in
contemporary times underscored the need to enlist the above excerpts on
the inhumane practices of multinational business concerns and economic
elites against the labor market. It has never mattered to the forces of
avarice what color the laborer was, or is. They have always been driven
by the bottom line, profit. Thus, an adequate framework from which to
analyze the structural social psychology of the contemporary era must
encompass the historical cognitions that have brought us to where we are.
Codification against Blacks appears to have worked to create an "other"
which takes the light off of the multinational corporations and elites
that have traditionally been the instigators of polarization. It is
defined as the encoding that takes place in the minds of others about a
group based on exaggerated differences, and a stripping down of the group
to encompass schematically limited personal characteristics.
But suffice to say, the stage is set to underscore that there are no real
differences between Blacks and Whites, with the exception of those
differences that have been created and manufactured. Lastly, a more keen
insight into African life around the time of the above-mentioned serf era
challenges our view of stereotyped tribal culture. R.H. Stone, an
American missionary ascended a lofty granite boulder above Abeokutu, West
Africa and noted:
What I saw disabused my mind of many errors in regard
to...Africa. The city extends along the bank of the Orgun for
nearly six miles and has a population approximately
200,000...instead of being lazy...living on the spontaneous
productions of the earth, they were dressed and were
industrious...[providing] everything that their physical comfort
required. The men are builders, blacksmiths, iron-smelters,
carpenters, calabash-carvers, weavers, basket-makers...they make
razors, swords, knives...women...most diligently follow the
pursuits which custom has allotted them. They spin, weave,
trade, cook, and dye cotton fabrics. They also make soap, palm
oil, nut-oil, all the native earthenware, and many other things
used in the country (Thompson 1983, 3).
[There's more to this paper, but I'm on deadline for another project and
wanted to get this out to you before I put it off.]
Keep up the good work!
Les Lester
lest0027@tc.umn.edu
Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998
From: Bill Hunter
Subject: Letter To The Editor
Please feel free to go to the following pages for a group that has been
working for the same thing you have for 155 years.
http://www.bahai.com or
http://www.bahai.org
You can include these URL's on your web page if you like.
Bill Hunter
BELL + HOWELL MPS
hunterb@mps.bellhowell.com
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998
From: Kenji Liu
Subject: Cultural Theft
Hello again, this is the introduction to an excellent essay
on the cultural theft that American Indians are experiencing at the hands
of white culture. This would be a good link for your site. Also, you need
to update your links, many of them are not working anymore.
http://dickshovel.netgate.net/respect.html
WANTING TO BE INDIAN:
When Spiritual Teaching Turns Into Cultural Theft ©
by Myke Johnson
Many people are searching for a deeper spiritual engagement
with the world, and feel a hunger unmet by the teachings and services of
traditional religious institutions. Some have begun to take an interest
in Native American spiritual practices, and one can easily find workshops
and lectures offering Indian rituals and ceremonies to non-Indian people.
However, many Native people, including highly respected religious elders,
have condemned such "borrowing." They identify it as a form of cultural
exploitation, gravely detrimental to the survival and well-being of Indigenous
people.
In this paper, I will be discussing the ethical questions
raised by White peoples' exploration of the religious ceremonies and beliefs
of American Indians. What is at work here which makes sincere spiritual
searching an act of cultural theft? Why are Native peoples endangered by
this interest in their beliefs and rituals? How can we respect the cultural
integrity of Indian people, and yet also honor deep-felt spiritual desires?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998
From: Jim Kirby
Subject: Good site
Hello---
Due to the recent acquisiton of political power by black Americans and their
high birth rate, much commentary on white accomplishments has been suppressed
as being racist. I know that many blacks might consider this site to be
racist, but with all the rhetoric on black accomplishments of late, there
should be a reminder in America of the worth of whites in the world, lest it
become an unbalanced issue. Thank you for the courage you have demonstrated,
and I hope an open-minded audiece will keep you online as long as the
repression of free thought exists in the United States and elsewhere.
---Jim Kirby
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998
From: Judith Ashton, Executive Director
Subject: Resources
Thought you might be interested in adding another book to your library
on Racial Identity: SHADES OF BLACK by William Cross, Jr., PhD,
professor of psychology, now at UMass in Amherst. He makes distinctions
between “personal identity” and “reference group orientation” or
“social identity," and speaks to the purposes of a solid Black identity.
Excellent book.
Have you considered including resources on transracial adoption to your
website? Please see our page, http://www.nysccc.org/T-Rarts.html,
including information about our new video, "Struggle for Identity:
Issues in Transracial Adoption." Another useful site is
http://www.pactadopt.org.
Thank you for the excellent resources on your website!
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998
From: Eve
Subject: Racism
You have a snazzy web site, although I must tell you that it isn't
going to do you a whole lot of good. I am a racist and proud of it.
You see, I love my own race, the Great White Aryan race. I already know
my Aryan white culture and history. Ours is the greatest culture and
history that the world has ever seen. We are the builders of
Civilizations. You and your kind will never be able to change that fact
no matter what you say or do. We are educating people all over the
world and making the truth known the world over. We don't want to live
in your multi-racial communities. We do not want to mix with people of
other races. So dream on for now, but your dream may just become your
nightmare.
Eve
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998
From: Andrew Smith
Subject: No subject
So, there's really an organization funded by the government to study the
"evil" Euro Americans? Amazing. Well, smart guy, what do you think will
be the reaction of us White Americans to the immigration invasion that
will condemn us to minority status in our own country? If you know us so
well, what do you think the new racially-concious Whites will do to the
blacks who have been waging a 30 year war of rape, robbery and murder
against us? And above all, what do you think we'll do to the White
traitors in government and academia who have striven so mightily to
destroy us? You might just wake up one morning, race traitor, and
discover that this isn't just an academic problem anymore. God help the
race traitors on that day. Then again, why would He? Good luck on your
conference Hitchcock.
Editor's Note: We reserve the right to obtain legitimate funding from any source we deem appropriate. However, as of this date (November 1998) we have not received any government funding. Nor do we anticipate receiving any government funding in the near future.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998
From: Kevin Shannon
Subject: Jeff & Charlie: keep shining bright
"Children of the Light" shining brighter than "white"
Are we going to see ourselves and others as “white” (or as other derivative
misnomers)? Or are we going to see ourselves and others as Children of the
Light, Children of God? To Sons (and daughters) of God is promised Life . . .
that's what I choose, Child of God, Child of Light. One key for me has been
to see it for others as well as myself. God loves us all the same, and there
is room for all people in the Light (in Him).
The word “white” as a human identity, is a misnomer that did appear on the
first US census. That is one way this iniquity is institutionalized. But a
closer look to Scripture reveals that there are three different Greek words
for “light” that were translated into the one English word “white” in the King
James version of the Bible (KJV). This is important because the founders of
this country were reading (and supposedly absorbing) the King James version of
the Bible (KJV). Newer translations have corrected these meanings, but the
legacy of what was constructed long ago (i.e., the first US census labeling
humans as “white”) was not. Now, God is calling His Children out of the long-
standing false perception of “white” (and all of its other derivative
misnomers) and into His Light. He, through His Son, is correcting mistakes in
translation if you will, that keep us in iniquity. Talk about foundations
moving! The Living Word does that. It also does so much more, Praise God!
This “fault of the conscience which oppresses the soul” (burden) is being
removed. Mankind is being restored & reconciled to God. We must allow and
encourage ourselves and each other ALL to be Children of God, Children of the
Light. And yes, that means overcoming the notion of “white” (and all of its
other derivative misnomers). The word black, for instance, has so many
negative connotations & associations, that for a Child of God, it cannot stand
in the Light as the identity misnomer that it is.
Many in the multiracial/multiethnic community have been “working for, in &
with God” and don't know it or call it as such. “Bear ye one another's
burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ” Galatians 6:2 (KJV). A more recent
translation from Greek to modern English reads: “You obey the law of Christ
when you offer each other a hand” Galatians 6:2 (cevABS).
The law of Christ is synonymous with bearing one another's burdens, they are
one in the same. Many of us have been, in the natural, “fulfilling the law of
Christ” without calling it such (myself included). Pause, and think about it,
we have been trying to resolve this “racial burden” without connecting our
need to resolve this with Gods written Will. Many facets of what we were
doing was in fact fulfilling the law of Christ.
For those who have been carrying this burden for others (and the “for others”
is important, only God truly knows) everything God the Father has is available
through His Son, Jesus Christ. Once we realize this, we can consciously and
knowingly assume our Biblical identities as Children of God, Children of the
Light.
Darkness in the Bible refers to the absence of God. Light is the presence of
God. His Love, His ways, and yes His Blessings for us His Children are all
detailed in The Bible and exist for us today. This “racial problem” should be
approached with a Biblical context. We also need money, and lots of it. Can
you help?
My own ethnic background (if you base it on existing misnomers) would put me
in the middle of all of this. That's not a spot to be in without God. I
cried out for Him and He was and is there. To me, through His Word, He is
revealing to ALL the identity “Child of Light”. By assuming this identity
through His Son (His living, resurrected Word), and seeing this identity in-
and-for others as well, His goodness is present and burdens are removed. What
has worked for me has been a reliance on God, much prayer & Bible study
accessing the Greek and Hebrew texts, and a “not focusing” on myself and my
identity concerns as much as those of others. Gods Holy Spirit provides so
much more, and it is so wonderful to be in the Risen body of Christ especially
now with a stronger awareness of my / our “fulfilling the law of Christ”.
Grace, Grace, Grace, Amen.
In Christ,
Kevin Shannon
Light8000@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998
From: L226699@aol.com
Subject: I need to tell you dumbies something
GET A LIFE!
I've got no problem with wimpy, guilt-ridden, scared white folks
being...wimpy, guilt-
ridden, and scared,--just don't expect OR demand it of other white people.
Especially ones who've worked and lived in THE REAL WORLD.
I'm going to tell you something: Black and Brown hate YOU as much as YOU claim
whites (or rednecks as people like you love to say) hate them. Racism in this
country is an industry--a game. Black and Brown haters know exactly the type
of
white people they can use, manipulate, intimidate, cajole into getting what
they want, i.e. special status, media coverage, etc--whiteboys and whitegirls
like YOU!...Wimpy, guilt-ridden...and scared.
I wish, just once, I could be in the room when Black and Brown is laughing at
your
dumb asses.
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998
From: L226699@aol.com
Subject: You dumb asses...
Get a life.
America's not going to be a nation by the year 2050...So don't worry about being a minority.
You head-up-your-asses keep leaving things out:
1) Has it ever occurred to you that blacks are capable of hate?
2) Has it ever occurred to you that whites' attitudes towards
blacks--today!--are derived entirely from what they see? (Not from "inherant racism")
I'd suggest you folks quit watching CNN and listening to National Public Radio.
If standardized tests are so "culturally bias" then why do Asians, specifically
Japanese and the Chinese, do so well on them--particularly the math part?
By the way, Japanese and Chinese-Americans, per-capita, earn more than anyone
else...That includes you too whitey!
A lot of those Cubans that came over on the Mariel boat lift back in 1980 are
doing pretty well now; Caribbean born blacks that come to this country do better on
average than native born blacks. Does that tell you anything? Who gives a fuck
what Julian Bond says or thinks....He's a professional victim--always has been,
always will be. He and the entire Civil Rights establishment is more concerned
with living in the past--"Whoe is me!"--than they are with teaching poor Leroy or LaTanya how to
read or write (or even better, add one plus one!).
America is a place where you make your own opportunities--you don't point your
fingers or hold your hand out. White enablers are responsible for this
Victocratic society we live in. I know what you're saying: "He's a racist!!!!" Nope. I
just call like I see it. Blacks have their priorities completely backwards. They just need to
get off their asses and take care of each other--just like ethnic groups today do,
like the Vietnamese, Koreans, Chinese...And like the old ones did, like the Jews,
Italians,etc.
Have a nice day.
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998
From: CMEN
Subject: White guilt
This page is full of white guilt and weakness
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998
From: Nell Fleming
Subject: THANK YOU
THANK YOU
I am really glad to see this web page.
I just recently began to "whine" to my husband (black) that
I felt a lack of understanding as to what it means to be "white" which
I am.
Especially here in Chicago where white means so many things and
almost everyone has one specific ethnic group (polish, italian, irish, etc
etc) and their first question is always "what are you?" and my answer is "I don't
know".
If you can't identify a specific ethnic group, the second thing they go for is
"religion" then "other" categories......sometimes I am left feeling very
"unclassified" and yet I have never considered myself "not white" as some of
the articles suggested. I have been wondering if I am a rather boring person
or just completly unique. I doubt either.
THANK YOU! I want to meet people who are interested in these questions.
Nell Fleming
DuPage County, Il
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998
From: A.D. Powell
Subject: Letter to the Editor
The following book should be required reading for "whiteness studies"
because it focuses on the issue of "white slavery," racial identity, and
the importance of "white slaves" in securing increased support for the
abolitionist movement and resistence to the Fugitive Slave Law:
THE FORGOTTEN CAUSE OF THE CIVIL WAR: A NEW LOOK AT THE SLAVERY ISSUE by
Lawrence R. Tenzer (http://scholarspublishing.com).
My own review of the book is at:
http://www.webcom.com/intvoice/powell9.html.
A.D. Powell
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998
From: YourUserName
Subject: White Studies paper
I have to write a persuasive paper for my college writing class and I
chose White Studies as a topic-introducing it to our curriculum at
Indiana University of Pennsylvania. I read everything-from declared
racists to supporters of the movement. It really helped me open my mind
to the different sides of the issue and reflect on opposing opinions. I
believe every concept is worth a chance. It is up to the individual to
make their desicions based on a wide variety of views and sources.
Hopefully that information will create more informed desicions. My hope
is that we can reclaim "the Dream" of a united people.
Krista L. Iskra